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it's specific treatment for diabetic nerve pain. to hear more of terry's story, visit lyrica.com. >> working with the senate's new odd couple. >> there will be differences between sxoursz the president, but i think committee we can iron out any of those. >> i think while he will show this is his ideal of where we should be, he will work with us to produce a good strong bipart sfwlan bill. we cannot pass this bill if either democrats are opposed or republicans or opposed. >> mr. secretary. john kerry gets unanimous approval from his foreign relations committee in the senate. now it is up to the full senate for a final vote on the floor toda

today. >> what a privilege to work with you and now to work with you in a different way. thank you. >> after 29 years in the senate who is his governor going to pick to temporarily replace kerry? did barney frank campaign too openly for that seat? >> is -- >> what does that mean? >> anybody but barney? >> no. >> this is a chance for you to make history. are you going to make history? >> well, i'm going to make an appointment of someone i'm confident will be a good steward and be interested in the people of the kwel for the four or five months until the people elect their permanent representative. >> the cabinet's last remaining republican is out as ray la hood said he is leaving transportation. hillary says good-bye. >> i don't feel i want to see

peace in the middle east and prosperity for all people and i want to see women and girls given their rights and opportunities. >> and some australian radio hosts asked madam secretary what she wants to be called after she leaves. >> which of the three names would you like to adopt. >> we spent three or four months of this. >> the incredible hillary, the artist formerly known as the secretary, or just hill clinton, but it does sound a bit like your husband. >> yeah. >> i think we're going to have to work on that list. >> you think? good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. president obama is en route to nevada at this hour. a state that has come to symbolize the power and importance of the growing latino vote. the president is expected to lay out his own vision for immigration reform and show his public support for the bipartisan senate plan that was announced only yesterday. >> joining me now for our daily fix chris cali sfwl sxwl a,

managing editor of post politics.com, and susan page, washington bureau chief for usa today. chris, what we are told is contrary to some reports that there is not a great deal of distance between what the president is going to say tow today and what the senate announced, at least as far as it goes, if the senate were to collapse, the senate plan were to collapse, then he might come out with perhaps a more liberal plan, but he is pretty much in sync on the advice of the congressional hispanic caucus to stay in line with what they're doing on the hill? >> that's incredibly meaningful because what that means is that it's not two tracks that this is running on. it's one track. this senate proposal -- again, there are a fair number of specifics in the senate proposal, but not a bill yet. nothing has been written. i always say until we get it written and passed, sweel, but it suggests that this is the main vehicle. the gang of eight bill will be the main vehicle with president obama's backing.

if you need an example of why republicans need to get on this issue, nevada started the 2012 election as a swing state. by the end of it neither party was spending money there because the hispanic community was so aligned with the democratic candidate that mitt romney couldn't compete. it went the way of new mexico in 2008, and i think republicans recognized that this is a first step. simply signing on to immigration reform doesn't mean they're going to win 70% of the hispanic vote, but they need to get this issue behind them because electorally speaking they would struggle for a decade or two decades if they don't. sxwro we've seen a mood swing. republicans know they have to get right on this, and this is why you're seeing this coalition come together so quickly. there's support for it. there's a new cbs news poll that shows that a majority, 51%, believe in a path to sit

sfwlenship. there's only 24% that say the undocumented immigrant should get out. >> that will be one of the final issues that gets resolved. while 51% of americans say they support that, we know that house republicans in particular, that's going to be a realisticing point. washington is kind of giddy. when was the last time on a big controversial issue there was a bipartisan consensus and a real sense that in the next few months maybe by the summer break we would pass comprehensive immigration reform which, you know, collapsed when george w. bush sought to do it even. >> i can't remember the last time there was this sense on a big controversial issue that the stars were aligned, both parties had their reasons for acting, and it's something that's likely to happen. >> it's best symbolized by this unlikely duo of john mccain and chuck schumer on morning joe today.

take a look at them together. this is when they were asked about whether this really amounts to amnesty, which, of course, is according to some republicans a dirty word. let's watch. >> this is not amnesty. it is a tough path to citizenship, but it is an opportunity, and they get in line between -- behind everyone who has come to this country legally. >> you have to work. you have to pay taxes. you are going pay a fine. there will be some admission of wrong doing. so it is not amnesty in any sense of the word. >> chris, susan was just talking about warmer temperatures today. it does feel different. maybe we're just all so hungry for anything that's bipart sfwlan, but this seems to be real. >> it does seem to be real. i would say that i think what senators mccain and schumer are talking about is the nub of the issue. particularly can republican members of congress convince their -- themselves and the

people who elect them that this path to citizenship clause is tough enough that it doesn't amount to just saying, well, it's okay. you broke the rules. you can still be in this country. that's always been the tough thing. look, this was the same john mccain who when he was faceed in a primary chalening 2010 had an ad in which he is walking a border talking to a sheriff and says we need to complete the dang fence. the politics of this issue in the republican base are not as simple as they might look right now. i would say the involvement of a marco rubio, who is sort of the face of the national tea party, his involvement in this does help. it does give some cover to conservatives who either feel like they need or want to be for it. >> and, in fact, susan, i think you were at a breakfast with marco rubio that we were both at last summer when he wanted to present an immigration plan. the romney team told him not to, and so president obama moved quickly with his dream proposals. >> so we never got that detailed

plan from marco rubio to address the problem of kids who are brought here illegal. a big opportunity for marco rubio to show political skills, he is now the emissary to conservative republicans in the house and conservative news media to make the case that this is not amnesty, that this is an acceptable proposal that they could embrace, and if he manages to do that, that will be a great achievement on his part for a pretty junior senator. >> thanks very much. susan page, chris, thanks both. joining me now for more on the immigration debate, minnesota senator amy, member of the joint economic committee. this is a big deal economically potentially, senator, because as business people are telling you and as i'm hearing from business people, college presidents and others as i'm sure you've heard this is a major economic component where we're training young people from around the

world giving them ph.d.s and then kicking them out. >> exactly. that's why senator hatch, senator rubio, and senator kuhns and i introduced today -- we took to the floor together and talked about our bill called i squared. it's really about making sure that when students come over here and they get an advanced degree, that we don't just send them back to another country and say, okay, start the next google in india or somewhere else. america was built on immigrants. you look at the number of fortune 500 countries founded by immigrants. every person that we have that has this kind of scientific inventor, engineering type visa, produces 1.8 jobs. it's a multiplier effect. american jobs. that's why i see this as part of the comprehensive reform. i support the principles that were outlined yesterday. i would agree with susan and chris that this is a major movement in the senate. not running away from something.

they're running towards something. it will also be very important. >> there was one report in the washington post which the white house is warning us off of that the president was going to take a more liberal approach than the senate had. that may have been what prompted senator rubio to take the floor moments ago. >> i hope what the president will say today is that he hopes that that process succeeds busht if his intentions are to trigger a budding war, to see who can come up with the easiest process, this is not a good start. but let's give him the benefit of the doubt. i hope my colleagues will do the same. i am deeply committed to the rule of law and to having an immigration system that works. >> so are you expecting that the president will be more or less on board with the senate compromised plan, or do you think he is going off in a different direction as senator rubio is concerned about? >> no, i believe he is going to be in line with the senate plan. he has long embraced immigration reform, talked about working with republicans, and i think you hear from senator rubio that the words i want to give him the

benefit of the doubt, he has reached out to people all across the aisle here on this issue. i truly believe when we're all running in the same direction on a very difficult issue that has been stagnant for years, every so often people will have some sharp elbows and jockey for position, but the key point here is that people want to get this done. this is a new dawn for immigration reform that we haven't seen in years. when i first got to this senate, i was involved in the immigration reform efforts. president bush valiantly tried to get that done. now is our opportunity to do this, and our country depends on this. it's the families. it's the earned citizenship, and as you pointed out, about the economy, 30% of u.s. nobel prize winners were foreign born. they invented things. they make stuff. they invent things, and that's how we produce jobs in this country. there is no reason why we would have no cap for sports stars and we love our sports stars in minnesota, and many of them come from other countries, so we have no cap on that, but we have

fairly severe caps on scientists, engineers, and inventors, and that's what we're trying to change. >> senator, before i let you go, i'm heading from here to the state department where i'm going to be interviewing hillary clinton, and there is so much talk among democrats whom i have been seeing the last couple of days about hillary clinton in 2016. only today a man in nigeria, a woman in germany at a town hall meeting, a globle town hall live asked her about her intentions. is she -- if she chooses to run, is she the prohibitive frontrunner, or is joe biden as the vice president, the presumptive heir to president obama in the democratic party? >> well, i don't think anybody can say that until they decide what they're going to do, but i will say that secretary of state clinton has done a tremendous job. i think there's an acknowledgment. look at the interview that the president and she did together. there's an acknowledgment really across the world of the work that she's done, and that's a decision that she will make. she's clearly a strong county candidate. >> very diplomatic.

you could be a potential secretary of state. >> there you are. very good. thank you accide, andrea. >> thank you very much. how will senators mccain and rube wroe now sell the immigration plan to the conservative base? republicans strategist and former romney advisor kevin madden joining us next. >> plus, tomorrow on andrea mitchell reports, my full interview with hillary clinton. now in her final week as secretary of state. that is wednesday, 1:00 eastern right here on msnbc. you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like the help of an attorney. at legalzoom a legal plan attorney is available in most states with every personalized document to answer questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. get started at legalzoom.com today. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly.

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>> i think republicans realize the realities of the 21st century, and there will be some difficulties, and it's a long, hard path, but i'm confident, frankly, in the long run that we will succeed. senator john mccain, of course, with his new best friend, chuck schumer, on "morning joe" urging fellow

republicans to support comprehensive immigration reform or else face what could be long-term political consequences. kevin madden, most recently a senior advisor for mitt romney, during his campaign joins me now. kevin, has -- is there a risk for the republican party if they don't get this message because of the population changes and because of what we saw in the last election, frankly? >> well, yeah. i think the risk politically is much larger. i think there's also great risk to our economy, but that's separate. i think on the politics of this there is great risk. you look at 1992 when bill clinton was elected president. he won with a margin billion 700,000 among hispanic voters, and that was when it was 2% of the vote. in 2012 barack obama won. when president obama won re-election, 10% of the vote, and he won with over five million. somewhere in there republicans have to go and find over 4.5 million votes outside of the hispanic population just to keep

up with democratic gains among that demographic. it's changing a lot of attitudes. understanding that there is -- that there are great challenges here. there are very, very deep opinions on both sides. making the case for what a moderate easternized immigration system looks like and how republican policies, how conservative principles can contribute to that. >> not to rehash too much, but just looking back, do the republican debates where everyone including mitt romney seemed to be running to the right and when rick perry and -- the access modified access in texas, he was vilified among his republican colleagues. was that a mistake? was that the moment from mitt romney to distinguish himself from his other debaters and take a stance that would have helped him in the general election?

>> i believe it was. one of the reasons why is because the -- when you have a campaign that's driven by tactics and i think that was a move that was -- that was a position that was driven by a tactical move to the right of somebody who had established a lead inside the primary. when you are driven by tactics, what happens is that you end up losing a lot of -- you're only thinking with your head, and this is an issue that many people look at with their heart. how we are ae welcoming party and we're a party that understands the value of immigration to the larger economy. the allure was very -- in the short-term gain was too great i think during the campaign during those debates, and -- to offer up what is essentially a more modernized immigration system and what a republican version of that looks like. >> jeb bush can play a major role. can he not? >> i suspect he will. he is an intlex wal force.

i think he is an example of where both the head and the heart meet on this issue. i think there will be a lot of different discussions inside the party on that. you remember that rick perry got in trouble for saying that if you disagree with me you have no heart, and i think that's something that will be interesting to watch. if you look at the 2008 campaign, anybody who disagreed with john mccain he essentially vilify and went out and attacked. i think in this debate right now, the opportunities come w n when -- they look to persuade those other legislator wrshz they look to change their minds. we also recognize that the -- that some of the resistance that they had to some of the details of the policy are legitimate, but that with those legitimate concerns there are also solutions, and i think that is something that when we look at all the horse trading that's going to take place on how we get a bill, that's going to be interesting to watch. >> we've seen ray la hood is leaving the cabinet, and the

president wants at least one republican we know of chuck hagel to be in the cabinet. the confirmation hearing will be friday. this is senator cornyn discussing why he opposes chuck hagel. >> i cannot support a nominee for defense secretary who thinks we should be tougher on israel and more lenient all around. we need a defense secretary who understands and fully appreciates the danger of a nuclear iran and the importance of the strong u.s.-israel alliance. >> do you think chuck hagel doesn't understand the danger of a nuclear iran? >> well, i think it's much more complicated than that. i think there are legitimate reasons, and i think folks like senator cornyn have good reason to have questions about senator hagel's viewpoint when it comes to looking at the -- at the american foreign policy. >> does the president deserve to have the -- >> i firmly believe when you get to choose the cabinet that you

want and there, of course, is the advice and consent of the senate, and that's an important part of the process. i think that's why these hearings are going to be quite illuminating. i think you will see some changes from senator hagel based on some of the past statements that he has made. he has had some policy prescriptions that haven't worked out right, and i think many of these senators are going to explore those, and as part of trying to find the right foreign policy platform for the country, that's all going to be part of that debate. >> kevin madden, it's great to see you again. thank you very much. how are the nation's civil rights leaders now reacting to the bipartisan effort to overhaul immigration? the national urban league's mark joining us next.

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league. thank you for being with us. >> how will this help the underserved americans? >> well, it's early cherry blossom season in washington. it's good to see a serious start in a serious effort at a bipartisan solution. fairness, compassion, and -- keeping many mind that while a large portion of them are latino, there are people from the caribbean, people from africa, people from asia, and people from europe who are part of those 11 million, so it's important to recognize that the problem or the situation or the

people involved are not simply from one part of the world. they're from all overtime world. i think number two, the civil rights and social justice community strongly agrees that this is an issue whose time has come. we support, i think, a fair, sensible, compassionate path to citizenship for those that are in this country and are undocumented. if there are some areas that we think need further discussion, it's the area of the impact on jobs, and we think that goes to what the future policy is going to be. the idea that i like is the idea of having an independent mechanism, a commission of sorts and secondly to have some sort of adjustment dollars available

so that while working to solve this problem we don't have a detrimental impact. we're working people who are in this country who are citizens and who are of long-standing in this nation. we think we applaud it. we think it's a positive day. good to see you. good to see some bipartisan cooperation. it's a good start. >> as a former mayor and a spokesman for, you know, urban americans as well, what about the gun issue and the attempts, dianne feinstein is just getting hit by the nra for her leadership on this issue. what can the urban league do to help push along the gun lawed agenda? >> the gun manufacturers lobby and their allies will attack anyone who seeks -- to impose

commonsense gun legislation, and i think we have to change -- make sure that the discussion is not about a lobby group in washington that it is a discussion about the children. it's a discussion about the victims. whether they be the awful tragedy in aurora or newtown or if it's downtown chicago or if it's east side of detroit or new orleans or baltimore, thb about the victims and the children, and what makes good sense in the 21st century, so i applaud the president, senator feinstein. we support what they're doing. we think there ought to be particular emphasis on prevention measures and on mental health interventions, and we think that that should not get lost in the discussion as we move forward. >> thank you very much. you heading back home for the super bowl? >> you know, i'm trying to figure that out and, you know, i'm going to root for the ravens. >> well -- >> since the saints aren't in it. >> that is a popular position here in washington d.c.

the washington baltimore corridor. thank you very much. >> thanks so much. >> thanks for that. >> and how we'll push immigration reform through the house. that's a challenge. democratic party chair congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz coming up next. >> we're live in brazil where protesters go into the streets demanding answers to the deadly nightclub fire. all stations come over to mission a for a final go. no go call. this is for real this time. we are on step seven point two one two.

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outrage over the initial findings about that horrific nightclub fire that killed 231 people, many of them young people, while police have made three arrest soz far, anger is boiling over today as it was revealed that the club had no fire alarm, no exit, no sprinklers, and almost no means of escape. this woman lost two of her friends that night. >> he goes to the bathroom, and 30 seconds later there's smoke,

the fire start, and i don't see him again. i am very happy i'm here, but -- but so much sad. >> heart breaking. nbc's kier simmons is in santa maria, brazil. there's been no arrests. we know that the nightclub owners are at least being held, but no charges filed yet. what do we expect to happen next? >> that's right. though charges yet. in fact, the police are here now. they have been here over the last hour or so. police officers, many of them in civilian uniforms, i'm told, a number of them are senior forensic officers. they have been here looking through this kiss nightclub. now, just to answer your question, andrea, four people have been arrested. reportedly two of those club owners and two -- one of the allegations is that fireworks pyro technics set off by the band set fire to the ceiling of the club and started this fire. now, while these officers have

been inside he haven't been able to go inside, but i was able to stand at the entrance and just look in. maybe for the people that are the rescue workers because just the panicked scenes that were here, so now after those panicked scenes some days ago now this careful study about the the police to see what the evidence shows looking in there, by the way, i also did see one fire extinguisher. one of the suggestions is that at least one of the fire extinguishers didn't work. another question, andrea, though, is whether or not the law needs to be changed because there is only one entrance. you see where they smashed the

brick work to try and help get people out. there were no windows. it's not clear whether or not that is legal and whether or not, in fact, the law needs to be changed because, of course, this is not the kind of publicity that brazil needs ahead of the olympics and with a major soccer tournament the world cup coming up, so the president is saying this must never happen again. the grief that has been felt in this community in the last few days has been begun to turn to anger. there is a demonstration expected today. there was a vigil yesterday. people are beginning to say why is this happening? it must never happen again. >> briefly, before i know you have to go off and do interviews, but how typical is this setting among nightclubs in brazil? >> what's happened before in south america, it is an issue around the world arks as you know. there have been many enstances. this is the worse, though, that

this country has seen for many, many years, so you can't say that it's typical, and one of the things about it, of course, is the age of the young people who died here. many of them students. this country's future killed here on that one night. >> thank you so much from brazil. >> and in about an hour president obama will signal his approval of the bipartisan senate effort to provide a pathway to sit sfwlenship for undocumented immigrants. florida congresswoman debbie wasserman-schultz is the chair of the democratic national committee and joining us from florida. what a beautiful setting. congresswoman, thank you very much. are we wrong to be taking so much, let's say, optimism out of these reports and out of seeing john mccain and chuck schumer today and just the bipartisan support coming out of the senate? what is the prospect in the house? >> i mean, it is good to see that the principles broadly

embraced by a bipart sfwlan group of united states senators are really in line with what president obama has been calling for, you know, really all the way through his first term. and i think president obama's advocacy and his focus on the need for comprehensive immigration reform during his campaign really created the space for and quite frankly the outcome of the election created this space for this bipartisan cooperation, but, you know, i want to give you a healthy but. there is, you know, the road is littered with gangs of senators, good intentions that were consumed by the legislative process, and, you know, what i'm hopeful about in the house is certainly that the majority of democrats in the house embrace comprehensive immigration reform and the principles that were put forward by the gang of eight, and i'm confident when president obama talks about it today it will be similar. but the question is will the

speaker who is dealing with still his group of really extreme republicans who have already signalled not very good comments about the proposal, you know, will he eventually let the will of the house work, the whole house, rather than the majority of the majority. that's really still in question. >> senator marco rubio is carrying a lot of water on this. he went to the lion's den to mix metaphors with rush let me bah today to try to sell it. >> the president will be in las vegas today. i know for you boarder security is the first and last. if that doesn't happen, none of the rest does, right? >> well, not just that. that alone is not enough. it has to be a combin's. we have border security. we need workplace enforcement. we need a visa tracking system. 40% of our illegal immigrants of our undocumented people in this country, they didn't cross the border. they came legally. their visa expired, and they stayed. we don't track people when they leave. we only track them when they come in.

all three of those things have to happen. the language of the bill has not even been drafted yet. these are just principles. this is going to be a challenge if, in fact, this bill does not have real triggers in there, and in essence, there is not language in this bill that guarantees that nothing else will happen unless these enforcement mechanisms are in place. i won't support it. >> so the real issue now is what's going to happen in the house. president obama has made this a top priority, so we are seeing a very, you know, big push coming from the white house. the other thing that he has done that is very unusual is sitting down with an interview with hillary clinton. a thank you interview for her service. what happens next? what is that signal, if anything, to joe biden, for instance? >> well, i don't think it's signalling anything. there's not a lot that should be read into that, except that secretary clinton is being honored for her remarkable service. it's so well deserved. now she has earned the well deserved rest that i know she will -- that she's looking

forward to, and, you know, we'll hear more about her plans as she develops them herself, but let me just go back to the border security issue and cracking down on employers on immigration reform. you know, we -- it shouldn't be lost on americans that we have actually under president obama deployed more border security patrol than we've ever had, and more crackdown on employers who are illegally hiring undocumented workers and creating an ease for that process to continue, so clearly president obama has made that a priority, and any legislation that we pass that's comprehensive is going to need to include that. the principles that the senators have laid out are sound and, you know, hopefully because the president is going to really use the bully pulpit and intends to make sure that he stumps for comprehensive immigration reform. that's going to create some pressure on some of the most conservative house republicans who clearly need to look at the 71% of hispanic voters that

voted for president obama and, you know, i am okay with whatever reason is their motivation for supporting comprehensive immigration reform as long as they support it, but the jury is still out for sure. >> before i let you go, josh green is reporting on bloomberg business week that the obama supporters, finance chairs, past chairs out in california, and elsewhere for obama helped last month retire hillary clinton's 2008 debt. not an easy prospect because they had to find people who had not macked out to her in 2008 and had not macked out federally in 2012, so they put together a coalition and ended up giving her a surplus now, not a campaign debt. that's a very nice thank you as well. >> well, there is so much goodwill for secretary clinton and the work that she's done over the last four years. i mean, she's one of the -- she is one of the most admired women in the world, and, you know, as i traveled the country for the last 18 months, the goodwill that people expressed from obama

supporters to just rank-and-file americans really was remarkable, and so it's not surprising that she would inspire that kich confidence and, you know, kind of gives her a clean slate to move forward as she ponders what she's going to do next, but really it should be stressed that i think what secretary clinton is most looking forward to is resting. you know, putting her feet up. she's the most traveled secretary of state in history, and he's done a remarkable job helping president obama take us from where we really had a diplomatic reputation that was -- and relationships that were in tatters when before he took office to now thanks to her leadership and president obama's leadership and the incredible team that they were along with vice president biden that they had restored america's relationships and our rightful place as a leader on the global stage. >> thank you very much. democratic chair debbie wasserman schultz. next we'll talk more about hillary clinton's long good-bye with former pennsylvania governor ed rendell. and we'll hear from the outgoing

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but that interview, the joint interview with the president was pretty unusual. what is the signal that it sends? >> well, i think the signal is that president obama has an incredible level of appreciation for the way that she conducted her business and the way they came together as individuals. not ju as partners. but adds individuals wrb. i think down the road if hillary decides to run president obama will be the sort of peace maker who talks to the vice president. i love joe biden. i think he has done a great job. i think he may be the best vice president in my lifetime. you can't stand in the way of history, and history is poised for the first woman president if hillary clinton chooses to go down that road. i think the president will be a key factor in looking to make that happen, just like bill clinton was a key factor in helping the president in 2012 and hillary herself after she lost in the primaries as a key factor in getting senator obama elected president in 2008.

>> she has done such a job by everyone's account as swuf state. yet, she today acknowledged benghazi was a major regret. the threat assessment process didn't work according to the independent review board, and there are probably regrets about the middle east, about the direction that the administration, not healthing hillary rodham clinton, but the administration, the president took initially with prime minister netanyahu which really did poison the atmosphere for peace negotiations down the road. >> nobody pitches a perfect game every time out. look, hillary clinton, if she decides to become a candidate in 20 andrea, will be judged as the totally of her work as secretary, and she was an extraordinary secretary. not just doing the ordinary things that secretary of states have to do. she did that very well. but the town meeting she had in foreign countries, the outreach to women throughout the world was exceptional and created untold goodwill for america and the things she did on economic

development. there was a recent article outlining how powerful she was for american companies and advancing their interest. she was an extraordinary secretary of state, so if they try to attack her on benghazi or anything like that in 2016, if she becomes a candidate, she will have a great, great record to fight back on. >> how unusual is it for the obama finance folks to help her pay off her debt in the last couple of months? >> well, not so unusual because of the relationship that has blossomed between the two of them. it's a great personal i'm phyllis, and i have diabetic nerve pain.

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which political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? chris cillizza is back with us. hillary clinton making a lot of headlines with her farewell appearances. >> no question, andrea.

i'm looking forward to the interview. look. she is someone who until she gives a shermanesque i will not run, i will not allow myself to be recruited, the field will wait. lots of people say, good, the whole field will wait. that's three and a half years away but it gets started early in 2016 and the planning for a president's race is massive. she is -- she is the domino that has to fall first for this whole race, particularly on the democratic side to proceed so every word she says to you will be parsed. by the likes of me. >> by the likes of you. of course, john kerry gets the final vote an approval presumably from the senate this afternoon. thanks so much. that does it for us. joining us tomorrow for my interview with secretary clinton right here. my colleague tamron hall has a look at when's next. hi, tamron. >> great to see you. a lot going on in the next hour. president obama touches down in nevada to deliver his first

public remarks on immigration reform since that bipartisan group of senators announced what they called a blueprint for comprehensive immigration reform. a short time, senator marco rubio part of the group and said to be one of the keys to getting conservatives on board gave an interview to rush limbaugh on rush's radio show. we'll play rubio's remarks and why he slammed the president efrl time several times. plus, florida congressman and congresswoman from texas will join us live with their thoughts on the plan ahead for immigration reform. i know you got to go in a minute but this is a real quick meal, that's perfect for two! campbell's chunky beef with country vegetables, poured over rice! [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right.